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Monday, November 22, 2004

How long does one learn a job?

Just been to the cat's domain and read about Patricia's apology re the Faye fiasco which appeared at the Philippine Star on Nov 19. Some people have been very angry at Patricia for having reported about Faye without checking the data yet. So were they angry at the cat for having sided with her. In comments to this article alone, there appears two anonymous comments deploring Patricia's apology. I seconded ting aling's defense and counter rebuttal in the same post. Yeah, why are they so angry with a passion? What has Patricia done to them? So, the Faye story is a lie, so what? Have they lost a lot of invested money and time?

At any rate, this got me thinking. While it is true that Patricia should have checked her sources first before she wrote anything, she committed a mistake and apologized for it. Come on, she has been into the journalism business for merely five months. For that alone, I'd say cut her some slack. I am not ashamed to say that as a teacher of twenty years, I still commit mistakes from time to time. I am not ashamed to say that half of the years I have been working in the same school was spent learning the tricks of the trade. I wouldn't be surprised if I found out taht I did not make any impact on my students during my first years of teaching. Even colleges admit that schools do not provide everything that will be experienced in the workplace. That's why most school's have included a practicum subject, or ini a teacher's case, "a practice teaching" lesson for would-be teachers. The workplace is so different from what you are being taught in school.

Lastly, should we condemn Patricia for her error? Why? I am just glad the Faye story is not true. I am one reason less why I hate the powers that be in government.

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Blogger BatJay said...

mahirap kasi ano, dahil high profile si patricia evangelista. alam mo naman how crabs work di ba?

i'm sure she'll learn from her mistake. she'll check her sources next time and do the research (as good journalists always do) before she publishes any article. she's still young - she'll learn and hopefully be a better person after all of this blows over.

kaya maganda maging comedy writer about nothing in particular, para anything goes as far as what you publish and what pictures you show. hehehehe.

10:07 AM  
Blogger Jet said...

Ay naku Tito Rolly, hindi na ako nakapag-aral dahil dito sa post nyo. Sinundan ko lahat ng threads sa blog ni Ca t tungkol dito... hehe.

Lahat naman ng tao may kanya-kanyang opinion di ba? So bakit kailangang maging laging palaban ang paghahain ng sariling kuro-kuro? I'd like to think that I have as much right to state my own opinion as the next person. Yung mga nagco-comment kay Cathy, they have such a marvelous way with words. Kaya lang, sa sobrang galing, parang nakakalimutan nila kung paano makipagusap ng maayos.

And one more thing, I suppose yung mga nagco-comment may mga blog din. It's Ca t's space so how can people tell her to shut up? Why don't they just blog about their sentiments in THEIR OWN space? It's the most basic rule of propriety... we don't tell anybody who's got something to say to shut up.

2:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we are but human, we make and commit mistakes, but what is important is we learn from our mistakes. Pat commited a mistake, but was humble enough to admit the fault and apologized for it, admitted too that that would serve a lesson, not only for herself but for all of us.. so dapat tapos na ang issue na yan against Pat, tagal din nalahthala yang issue na yan ah...

heniwey, thanks again Ka Rolly for this post...

BongK

4:33 PM  
Blogger metal said...

tito rolly...that is nature of some, they are enraged at something written falsely...it has been very easy to see someone else's mistake rather than his/her accomplishments. but to see somebody accepts her mistake followed by an apology, that'll be something...it'll take a lot of guts and some balls to accept one's mistake even how small it may seem. everybody commits mistake and that's a fact. "let he who have not sin cast the first stone"

4:48 PM  
Blogger Rache said...

tito rolly, alam mo naman, ako nga rin nung nabasa ko 'yung story ni faye naniniwala ako. well, i did say that i felt something was off kasi parang sobra naman yung ibang details. but the point is, kahit na it was proven false, i think this entire faye thing teaches us a lot. why had people believed it easily? again, what is media's role? and kahit hindi nga totoo ang kwento, hindi ba totoo naman na mas binibigyang atensyon natin ang mga artista kaysa ang mga achievers? why do people like faye's mother invent stories? is that a sign of how desperate some filipinos are? maraming issues itong faye thing na ito na kahit pa hindi totoo ay dapat pansinin. lalo pa nga dahil nakalampas sa maraming tao, pati na si patricia evangelista. and i agree, anyone who apologizes should be forgiven. the mistake can not be forgotten but we are only human. matuto naman tayong magpatawad.

1:23 AM  
Blogger ting-aling said...

Naku Tito Rolly (at Cathy), Pasensiya na, di na ako nakapag-pigil. Hindi ko masikmurang may mga taong kaya pang tapak-tapakan ang isang taong lugmok na. Kung baga sa bugbugan, bagsak na nga sisipa-sipain mo pa. Di ba bullies na ang tawag doon? Bakit 'di mo na lang tulungang bumangon? May mga anak ko so ayaw kong ang mga anak ko di matutong bumangon pag bumagsak sila. Gusto ko silang matuto sa kanilang pagkakamali at gusto ko ring malaman nila na puwede silang magkamali, bakit hindi? Gusto kong maramdaman nila na pag sila'y nagkamali, merong magmamalasakit sa kanila.

2:31 AM  
Blogger cathcath said...

titorolly,
salamat sa mga suporta ninyo.pare-pareho tayo sa pagtataka sa dahilan ng kanilang galit. Noong una hinintay nila ang apology ni Patricia. Noong nag-apologize na galit pa rin.

Kung mga bata pa sila,ang kanilang enerhiya ay misdirected. kung may sapat na gulang na sila, siguro ego ang na ang nasaktan.

si batjay kasi hindi binibigyan ng eggs.
hehehe

naku jet, mag-aral ka lang. wag mong pansinin na yang
mga yan.

sa mga comment nila, makikita no kung sino ang mabuting tao.
si pat hindi tinawag ng masamang pangalan ang mga San Juan kahit sa private e-mail niya sa akin.

sila tinatawag nila kung anu-ano si pat.

5:00 AM  
Blogger Jet said...

Meron siguro talagang mga tao who's got so much pent-up frustrations that they would lash out on anything, no matter how small, no matter how remotely it affects their lives, makapaglabas lang ng galit sa dibdib. Kasi di ba, if you have a life... trabaho, pamilya, kaibigan... may oras ka pa ba, and energy, to keep coming back just to bitch on people who hold opposing views? It's a waste of time and energy.

Either that or madami talagang emotional juveniles among us. Whenever I read or hear people calling other people names, I see in it a person crying out for help, somebody who'se totally clueless on how to fit in, who knows no other way but to be obtuse.

Either that or hindi siya naturuan ng tama nung maliit siya. I think that situation still calls for help.

Pag ganito ang mga mindset ng mga tao, it is not surprising that they can't find it in their hearts to be forgiving and to be magnanimous about being able to do so.

Still and all, either one of the above will still give me hope. Mas madali para sa akin tanggapin that people just need a lot of compassion and understanding and sometimes their expressions can be misdirected.

What is frightening to think is that these people are just plain ruthless.

For all our worries about global warming, we can still, unwittingly, choose to make this world such a cold place to be in, and it doesn't help at all.

Yun ang ayokong isipin.

It's always more difficult to walk on the right path, that's why there are so few of them... like Patricia, like Cathy.

6:17 AM  
Blogger cathcath said...

jet,
binasa ko ang mga comment. Wala lang talaga.Marami silang below the belt na mga snide remarks patungkol sa akin na gusto kong kaibiganin si Patricia kaya ko siya pinagtanggol; na gusto kong ,maging sikat, eh si Ca t na ako. hehehe.
bakit naman sisipsip ako para mapansin ni Pat, hindi naman ako tomboy, wala naman akong kailangang pabor sa kaniya.

Naawa ako sa mga taong ang kanilang pananaw ay hanggang
sa maabot lang ng kanilang kamay na nakadipa.

Naawa rin ako mga taong ang nakikita lang ay itim na
hindi naman kulay at hindi ang puti na simbolo ng kalinisan.

May mga tagong galit sila marahil kaya naghanap nang
mapagbubuntunan.

10:48 AM  
Blogger cathcath said...

jet,
binasa ko ang mga comment. Wala lang talaga.Marami silang below the belt na mga snide remarks patungkol sa akin na gusto kong kaibiganin si Patricia kaya ko siya pinagtanggol; na gusto kong ,maging sikat, eh si Ca t na ako. hehehe.
bakit naman sisipsip ako para mapansin ni Pat, hindi naman ako tomboy, wala naman akong kailangang pabor sa kaniya.

Naawa ako sa mga taong ang kanilang pananaw ay hanggang
sa maabot lang ng kanilang kamay na nakadipa.

Naawa rin ako mga taong ang nakikita lang ay itim na
hindi naman kulay at hindi ang puti na simbolo ng kalinisan.

May mga tagong galit sila marahil kaya naghanap nang
mapagbubuntunan.

10:48 AM  
Blogger rolly said...

Batjay I'm sure Patricia has learned from this experience. First baptism of fire, ika nga.

Mahirap maging comedy writer. Ang hirap mag-isip ng nakakatawa. Ikaw kayang kaya mo yun. Bihira ang taong pinanganak na natural na kenkoy hehe

Jet For reasons I couldn't understand, I couldn't get into your comment box. Been trying to comment on your last post but to no avail. Will try again later.

hindi ko nga maintindihan kung bakit galit na galit sila kay Pat at kay Cathy. Iniisip ko lang, ano bang napakalaking pagkakamali ang nagawa nung dalawa at they hate these two with a passion. I've read the nasty comments... Simple lang dapat ang buhay, hindi ka nag-aagree, layasan mo yung site. Hindi ka naman pinipilit magbasa... Yun lang naman ang gusto kong sabihin. Tama ka, may blog naman yata sila, e di dun sila magngangalngal. Baka wala kasing pumupunta, e pano naman silang pupuntahan, e anonymous naman ang sulat.. ay ewan...

11:55 AM  
Blogger rolly said...

BongK wag kang mag-alala, sakin tapos na yan. hindi naman ako talaga kasali jan e. hehe Yun nga sinabi ko, everybody commits a mistake. Should we glorify ourselves because it is not us who committed the error? Ganun ba yun?

metal Wala tayong magagawa, merong mga taong porke't hindi sila nagkamali, e pagkagagaling na ang tingin sa sarili.

12:02 PM  
Blogger rolly said...

Rache Actually, I first read about the story in your blog. Hindi ko alam na galing ito kay Patricia and the other details. Kay Cathy lang at sa mga bumabatikos doon sa site nya.

Tingaling Actually, bilib ako sa dalawang sulat mo dun sa comment box ni Cathy. I say, amen to all the points you raised. Sana naman, tablan yung si "anonymous" kung sino man siya. Imagine, asking Cathy to shut up in her own blog in one of the comments in a latter post! nakakatuwa naman ang logic nung taong yun.

12:07 PM  
Blogger rolly said...

Cathy Alam mo, naisip ko lang, ang bait mo pa din. I have read how you enter an argument a couple of times in Sassy's blog and I have seen how you can be so "taray". i was wondering why you don't seem to show the same flare at this juncture when it's your blog being attacked. Then I realized, you are going down to their level. Saludo ko sa yo, ate!

Jet Posible lahat yang sinasabi mo. At posible rin namang nakakuha ng pagkakataong magyabang sa sarili ang mga to. Feeling good kung baga at they thought they were able to put one over Pat and the Ca t.

Cathy Oo nga naman, si Cat ka na. You don't have to prove anything to anyone.

12:13 PM  
Blogger Cerridwen said...

I really don't see any purpose to all this. Didn't everyone at one point in their life made a mistake and will make another mistake. It is just a matter of handling the mistake. I tend to have respect for people who tried to fix the mistake than those who were pointing fingers, because those are the one doing nothing and creating the noise. It always have to be the hard way huh? pick on the wound rather than letting it be to dry and heal....

4:29 PM  
Blogger cathcath said...

titorolly,
sa lahat ng bagay, pag galit ka talo ka.
matalino siya,pero wala siyang rebuttal sa mga points na niraise ko. Basta galit siya dahil sa nagkamali si Pat. Period.Kailangang daw na magsorry siya no ips, no vuts...eheek no ifs,no buts pala.

Kahit naman sa management,first offense ay reprimand,
second offense ay warning at third ay itapon mo na sa
labas ng building. oooops sorry.

I am not even bothered by his insult. Kilala ko ang sarili ko at kilala rin ako ng sarili ko.Naghehello pa
kami sa isa't isa.hehehe

5:29 PM  
Blogger Jet said...

Haaay naku Cathy, naloloka ako sa mga sagot mo... haha!

Pero no doubt about it, you'll be fine and nobody can ever put you down, not with your humor and all. :)

6:04 PM  
Blogger Jet said...

Tito Rolly, pasensya na ha. Di ko alam kung bakit kayo nahihirapan sa comment box ko. Salamat sa pagtitiyagang maka-connect ha. :)

6:05 PM  
Blogger TinTin said...

(aka pinayhekmi)

I just read the thread. Oh well, when people get on their high horse, there's no getting them off it. Tsk tsk...why can't people be more forgiving?

2:46 PM  
Blogger rolly said...

Cerridwen That is precisely what I was thinking. We all, in one time or another, committed a boo boo and it did not matter to us now.

Cathy Oo nga Cat. ang importante ay kilala mo sarili mo at alam mo kung hanggang saan ang iyong kakayahan

Jet umaarte pa rin yung comment box mo. Di tuloy ako makapag comment.

Tintin While it is true that people can ride a high horse, sometimes they have to be thrown away rather than get off by themselves.

9:21 PM  
Blogger Dr. Emer said...

Sa mga pikon na patuloy na naiinis ke Cath at Patricia, kumain na lang kayo ng ice cream. =)

1:24 AM  
Blogger rolly said...

O ayan, doctor na nagsasabi nyan. Makinig na kayo't baka atakihin pa kayo sa puso sa sobrang tension nyo sa buhay. hehehe

4:14 AM  
Blogger cathcath said...

titorolly,
pls do not be misled that I joined the exchange of tirades in one blogger's website.

I never do that and I also do not use the name Cathcath for my signature.

I do not care what they say. Hindi naman totoo.

7:18 PM  
Blogger Jules said...

i pity pat's eagerness to believe that:
1. people, esp. Filipinos, are honest
2. people who trumpet their acheivements tell the truth because their dignity and integrity is on the line if it aint true

***sigh.... is there hope still tito rolly?

12:08 AM  
Blogger Tomato said...

Mistakes are corrected the moment we acknowledge the mistake. We learn as we roll along in life, diba? We can't avoid making mistakes because we're only imperfect beings seeking to BECOME perfect (unattainable as that may be) and challenges and eventual mistakes are a fact of life.

I feel bad for her... I know what it's like to err... it sucks. But it, unfortunately, sucks even more to own up to a mistake. (c'mon, we all know what how that feels) So then why put so much heat on her?

HI SIR! I'm back... sir punta kayo ng http://decult.featherblown.net interesting s'ya, promise. wag kakalimutang basahin ang introduction bago tumingin-tingin. hehehe ^_^ tapos comment kayo... yun lang, nagpaparamdam lang. heeheehee
-erin

12:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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2:24 PM  
Blogger rolly said...

anonymous Huh? Sorry but I don't think I understand correctly. Can you clarify that a bit more?

Ang layo na ng nahukay mo, ah. hehe

thanks for visiting and posting a comment.

5:09 PM  

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